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brama telecom dead in the water?

infamouskid posted : looks like brama telecom bit the bullet.a friend of mine called in today to ask something and to his surprise he was greeted by someone from t one internet?anyways any brama...

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Nitra posted : »www.ccts-cprst.ca/5609

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tpiazrule posted : What a poor way of doing things, they could have at least notified their customers!

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HiVolt posted : Yeah, scumbags. probably drew as much credit as they could and disappeared.--

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infamouskid posted : that's exactly what happened.a month ago they told her that if she wanted her deposit back she would have to return the hardware for the modem and ata.she prepaid 2 years in...

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tpiazrule posted : really shittynever heard of them before this thread--were they around for a while?website is still up and accepting orders, fyiwho do they resell? I thought they were a reseller of a...

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HiVolt posted : I don't understand people that prepay for services like that, especially with some small outfit.A contract is one thing, to get a discount, but you still pay it month to month, but...

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infamouskid posted : i'm not signed up to them?? lol. i would never sign up with a company that asks for a year upfront without even knowing anything about them.i was just curious if there are others...

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anon posted : said by infamouskid:i'm not signed up to them?? lol. i would never sign up with a company that asks for a year upfront without even knowing anything about them.i was just curious if there...

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TSI Marc posted : said by Finnigan3 :said by infamouskid:i'm not signed up to them?? lol. i would never sign up with a company that asks for a year upfront without even knowing anything about them.i...

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MFido posted : I think you are dreaming ... or mixing up companies! I subscribed in 2004 with Ontario DSL on a month to month plan (as ever) ... They were a reseller of Teksavvy - like Montreal DSL -...

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jasmo34 posted : said by MFido:and when the guy moved to AustraliaThat would have been Gavin M., if my memory (and original Ontario DSL email, with notes) is correct! :)

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HeadSpinning posted : said by MFido:and when the guy moved to Australia (if I remember well) all calls and hits to its website were forwarded to TeksavvyThat could have been a bit risky for Teksavvy....

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huh_wha posted : said by HeadSpinning:That could have been a bit risky for Teksavvy. If they had the phone and website forwarded and took over the customers, other creditors of Ontario DSL might have...

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infamouskid posted : wait what?a big isp with customers in voice, data and video goes under without warning customers and baits them all to pre pay for years while keeping deposits is not worth...

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mr weather posted : You got a dog in this fight or something?--"It's all coming down!!" - Mike Holmes

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HeadSpinning posted : said by huh_wha:No such argument could ever be made and no such risk existed.Dunno about that. We had to cut off a wholesale customer for non payment many years ago. Our lawyer...

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Nitra posted : That's unfortunately the way it is, unless there was a default clause built into the original wholesale agreement.

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infamouskid posted : also we dont need a report...just call the number on the website and ask the agent what happened.they are clearly explaining the situation over the phone.--BELL CAN SUCKADANUTZ!

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huh_wha posted : said by infamouskid:also we dont need a report...just call the number on the website and ask the agent what happened.they are clearly explaining the situation over the phone.Right....

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Teddy Boom posted : said by HeadSpinning:Dunno about that. We had to cut off a wholesale customer for non payment many years ago. Our lawyer specifically advised us NOT to solicit their (former)...

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HeadSpinning posted : said by Teddy Boom:That seems really strange to me.. I mean, this happened:Right, but their wholesale provider, Bell, didn't poach Ralph's customers. Instead the customers were...

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infamouskid posted : its actually not a customer service rep from brama that picks up but a t one employee advising brama customers. and facts are at the top of the page in that link along with many...

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Teddy Boom posted : said by HeadSpinning:Right, but their wholesale provider, Bell, didn't poach Ralph's customers. Instead the customers were sold or transferred to Cybersurf - an unrelated...

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vincom posted : website still operating.did a signup for services, doesnt confirm if i can get the dsl speeds, i cannot in my area, after picking services it just goes to the checkout page to enter...

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infamouskid posted : exactly.. these guys are just after money and just using the bankruptcy protection. that's what it looks like to me.the responsible thing to do would to put a big notice on the...

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huh_wha posted : There's no facts there. It just says service has been shut off without notice or explanation. It doesn't say who shut it off, when, or why. No facts at all. Zero. No-one has any idea...

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huh_wha posted : said by vincom:scammer imoAn abandoned website is a scammer?said by infamouskid:bankruptcy protectionOh they're declaring bankruptcy now? Was that in that link you pointed out...

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infamouskid posted : uuuuuggghhh no...call the number and ask the t one employee answering the phone.they clearly said the company started having financial problems months ago and services are to shut...

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infamouskid posted : oh yeah... you can't even port your number out--BELL CAN SUCKADANUTZ!

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vincom posted : said by huh_wha:There's no facts there. It just says service has been shut off without notice or explanation. It doesn't say who shut it off, when, or why. No facts at all. Zero. No-one...

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mr weather posted : said by huh_wha:There's no facts there. It just says service has been shut off without notice or explanation. It doesn't say who shut it off, when, or why. No facts at all. Zero....

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HeadSpinning posted : said by huh_wha:You people are all just speculating and publicly shaming a company based on squat.The shame is deserved if they stopped providing service without explanation. Why...

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vincom posted : said by HeadSpinning:said by huh_wha:You people are all just speculating and publicly shaming a company based on squat.The shame is deserved if they stopped providing service without...

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huh_wha posted : said by HeadSpinning:The shame is deserved if they stopped providing service without explanation. Why are you defending such actions?I'm not defending anything except the principles of...

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tpiazrule posted : It doesnsaid by huh_wha:said by HeadSpinning:The shame is deserved if they stopped providing service without explanation. Why are you defending such actions?I'm not defending...

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huh_wha posted : The CCTS is not a government organization.Writing on the wall? Come on. It doesn't exactly take a genius to see there is absolutely not one shred of evidence to suggest anything...

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tpiazrule posted : OK, let's take your scenario.They walked away.They walked away owing refunds, they walked away while still accepting orders and taking funds for a service they know they will never...

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huh_wha posted : The beauty of the internet's anonymity.:)

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tpiazrule posted : said by huh_wha:The beauty of the internet's anonymity.:)? Why because it makes it easier to scam people and rip them off?I don't think this situation is anything to provide a smiley...

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Nitra posted : If the CCTS puts out a warning about a company, regardless of your opinion, it should be taken seriously, it's rare they would take such steps.Also, months later, they're still taking...

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Fraoch posted : Taking money for a service a company has no intention or means of providing constitutes fraud. Doesn't it?

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huh_wha posted : said by Fraoch:Taking money for a service a company has no intention or means of providing constitutes fraud. Doesn't it?A "company" is incapable of forming the requisite intent, so a...

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Nitra posted : Actually, fraud is exactly what it is. Be it by the company or those in charge, if this was a bankruptcy, they could have handled it as such, not keeping a face up to deprive more people...

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tpiazrule posted : Fact 1: They disappeared owing refundsFact 2: They disappeared and left people with their service being shut offFact 3: They are/were still taking orders and people's money even...

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